Five months of phone interviews prior to an onsite for a design leadership role, thus all phone interviews were conducted either with executive recruiters or group lead/mgt across several groups throughout Facebook AI, Oculus VR in Mountain View and Seattle. • All phone interviews went great, clearly - they kept it going for almost half a year. • In-person onsite lasted only 3.5/4hrs. Began with me presenting to three males, one was PM, two were product designers/Unity devs and the 4th person was my candidate-handler. • PM jumped in about half-way through my opening presentation – wanted to see my 'graphics.' (This wasn't an IC graphics/design role. This was for executive product leadership.) Handler suggested we start the 1:1's. • Each of the two 1:1 design tests went great. One of the guys exclaimed, "Oh wow, no one has come up with these ideas before!" Both seemed to be having a good time , as was I. I've been designing products/experiences for 15+ years so this is completely my wheelhouse. • Time for 1:1 with PM. Seemed agitated. Wasn't into it, apparently. He's a manager, not a product-contributor. Couldn't really grasp what a director of UX does, even in AR/VR., despite my many examples both visual, animated and textual – from working in AR/VR, no less. End result: GHOSTED. No comms of any kind, after five months of executive recruiting phone interviews and an onsite. After some research, apparently this is the norm across all of FAANG.