2 interviews. 1st was broad overview of the management program. The hiring manager was "selling me" on the position with language such as "the money you can make in this position is ridiculous." I told them from the start that I was not interested in sales positions and therefore interested in their management program. After 2 interviews it became clear that all new employees have to start in sales. This was not a standard interview because there were minimal questions about me. It was much more focused on sharing what the onboarding process for NYL was and the ladder of career growth through sales and management.